From Ed Hornick CNN LAKE FOREST, California (CNN) — Speaking to a group of evangelical Christians, Sen. Barack Obama said Saturday that his greatest moral failure — and the country’s — has been selfishness, but his opponent, Sen. John McCain, cited his failed first marriage. McCain, the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, added that the country’s greatest shortcoming has been a tendency to not devote itself ‘to causes greater than ourselves.’ ‘I think after 9/11, my friends, we should have told Americans to join the Peace Corps, expand the military, serve a cause greater than your self-interest,’ he said. Obama told the Rev. Rick Warren that ‘we still don’t abide by that basic precept of Matthew: that whatever you do for the least of my brothers, you do for me. ‘That basic principle applies to poverty. It applies to racism and sexism; it applies to not thinking about providing ladders of opportunity for people to get into the middle class.’ VideoWatch more of Obama’s comments » The Saddleback Civil Forum on Presidency was the first time both candidates appeared on stage since they became the presumptive presidential nominees for their parties. The event was […]
Sunday, August 17th, 2008
Obama, McCain Talk Issues at Pastor’s Forum
Author: ED HORNICK
Source: CNN
Publication Date: 16-Aug-08
Link: Obama, McCain Talk Issues at Pastor’s Forum
Source: CNN
Publication Date: 16-Aug-08
Link: Obama, McCain Talk Issues at Pastor’s Forum
Stephan: Let me clear about where I stand on this. I believe that proper sex education and family planning would make abortion rarer, with no coercion, and greatly reduce the pain, suffering, and family destruction, that attends the current situation.
But, in the end, the fundamental issue for me is this: Everyone has, as an inalienable right, the power to control one's own physical organism. It helps, perhaps, that as a scientist, I think research is confirming what the inner pilgrimage of my own life confirms by experience: Consciousness exists outside time space, and is causal.
It has always struck me as perversely materialistic that abortion is equated with the death of spirit. Particularly when it is a position expounded by people who proclaim themselves religious.
In the domain of consciousness, beyond time space, placing things in proportion it would seem rather like denying a child their turn on the Dodg'em Cars. Tragic, but not fatal to spirit. Other Dodg'em cars will come along. Abortion does not kill spirit, that part of us outside of time space. But we need to acknowledge the great pain and suffering that attends this argument.
